Comments on: It is Believed that Darren Dreger at TSN May Have Been Among Those Mentioned as Someone Who Possibly Could Be Pulling S*** Out of His *ss

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By: qwisp

qwisp — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:05:59 +0000

Don’t tell anyone.

By: nmatt7

nmatt7 — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:38:57 +0000

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By: nmatt7

nmatt7 — Thu, 21 May 2009 17:58:40 +0000

Dude, your famous now!

By: qwisp

qwisp — Thu, 21 May 2009 03:12:15 +0000

Hilariously, I didn’t know anybody cared. I was really just talking to the others who read Inside the Kings.

By: therealmattgeorge

therealmattgeorge — Wed, 20 May 2009 22:00:48 +0000

Great stuff qwisp

Clearly some actual journalists were annoyed with you’re calling out of BS when you see it.

Personally I’m more than a little annoyed with “I heard this dude say this thing one time, that his brothers cousin’s uncles aunt found out through their friend that Jack Johnson of the Kings might get traded … or … go somewhere… or something.”

By: qwisp

qwisp — Wed, 20 May 2009 20:16:44 +0000

Me, too. And, aside from this isolated case, that’s still true. It’s just a few ItK readers. And that’s as it should be.

By: 4thliner

4thliner — Wed, 20 May 2009 19:55:35 +0000

Quispy! Edmonton Journal picked up on the Kool-Aid!?………..Consider it officially on the map!…….. I’m joking, but I honestly thought maybe just a few inside the kings readers checked it out regularly..

By: qwisp

qwisp — Wed, 20 May 2009 17:18:40 +0000

So what you’re saying is basically, you should not criticize Dreger unless you’ve “done any of the work Dreger has” and have “taken the time to call Mr. Dreger” for clarifications, in other words…you’re a reporter, and even then you shouldn’t criticize him because “Dreger is…well known in hockey circles, has connections and works with Bob McKenzie.”

I can’t speak to Dreger’s reputation or credibility, except as it is reflected in the piece I wrote about.

Your point — “that I really haven’t responded at all with anything of merit” — really just means that you cut this particular writer a ton of slack simply because of his reputation. I would argue that his reputation makes what is annoying in the piece I criticized more annoying, precisely because people (like you, for example) take everything he says so seriously.

However, I feel I should add that I have nothing personal against Darren Dreger. I don’t have an opinion of him or his work, outside of this one article, which I obviously didn’t like. And I think I explained in pretty good detail why I didn’t like it.

Keep in mind also that what I wrote had a context, and that context was in response to several somewhat distraught comments on a Kings blog, “Inside the Kings,” where people were panicking about the potential truth of the Dreger piece. Accordingly, I was responding in a very literal way to the actual words in the article, to see if they actually said anything worth (Kings fans) worrying about. I concluded that they didn’t.

Only about ten people in the world would have ever read my comment had it not been picked up by the Edmonton Journal blog, and from there Oilers Nation and three or four other places. Some who have taken the time to comment (either here or at those other venues) have characterized my comment as “hate” or a “swipe” or a “rant” — but really it was a lot less personal and a lot more measured than that. I was just looking at what he wrote with an eye toward whether or not the words actually said anything. I don’t think they do, other than, “I talked to a guy who says that Jack Johnson’s dad is ‘off the reservation.’”

But, really, I think the original article and my comment on it speak for themselves.

By: ghostofpierremcguire

ghostofpierremcguire — Wed, 20 May 2009 15:11:16 +0000

Qwisp, next time you take a swipe, try to do so at someone with less credibility, and perhaps with a better tactic than simply dissecting the composition of said message. Your assertion that there is a half-truth because of how it is written does nothing to address what Dreger has clearly done, and that is had a conversation with the coach of the team in question. Have you taken the time to call Mr. Dreger and clarify otherwise? Because your linguistic reverse engineering of a simple article would hold some water if you had done any of the work Dreger has, instead off simply teeing off on his verbiage.
It is clear that he has spoken to qualified and legitimate hockey personnel who would certainly know if Johnson’s camp had made contact with the team they work with in Russia. That is the point, which itself (outside of anything else) yields other logic – if JJ is happy in L.A., why is he seeking options?
While it may pain the odd King fan to know that a player would like to play elsewhere, it is a common theme amoungst the somewhat self-serving royalty that play the game today. And certainly in this case, if and likely when Tampa decides to move Vinny, the management team in L.A. isn’t going to hurt relieving themselves of JJ knowing that this may well be the case…
But unlike the frauds of the hockey world *cough-fakelund-cough*, Dreger is actually well known in hockey circles, has connections, and works with Bob McKenzie – the man with more connections than Al Capone. These things alone lend to his credibility, and it might be best served in this case to reserve judgement on the core of his message here until one can postulate otherwise in something better than a critique of his writing style. You said the “least” you could do is respond line by line, but in truth… you really haven’t responded at all, with anything of merit, research, or of valid note otherwise.