Tippett: we’re getting our asses kicked because the game is dishonest and that’s sad really

Tippett: Kings get `breaks on calls’ « LA Kings Insider

Question: What did you think of the officiating?

[TIPPETT:] If I told you what I really thought, I think it would cost me a lot of money.

“Having said that, let me tell you the nice version.” Presumably, now he’s going to tell us some version of his thoughts that don’t include the league or the refs being incompetent or corrupt. Because those are the things that “would cost [him] a lot of money”.

Personally, the whole — and I’ve talked about this in a lot of meetings with Don (Maloney), our general manger — the game is turning a little dishonest, and it’s embellishment by players. Because they know. When it’s done well, it’s very hard for the referees, very hard.

Ah, so the Kings are a bunch of divers, apparently. Which explains why the Kings got all those power play goals that won the game for them. Except, that didn’t happen. The Kings’ power play sucks.

Because if you fall down near the boards or you drop your stick or you throw your head back, you’re putting the referee in a very tough situation. […] The referees have a hard job, and it makes the game dishonest.

I don’t see how it makes “the game” dishonest. Diving is against the rules. The refs call it when they see it, like last game when Brown clearly pretended to be hatcheted by Mike Smith.

If a team was constantly offsides as a strategy, would that make the game dishonest? Of course not, because the linesmen would call it. At least, the obvious instances of offsides. If it’s really, really close, sometimes they might miss one. But wait:

What if a team is constantly pushing the envelope and trying — well, not to be offsides actually, but — to be almost right on the line of being offsides? Isn’t that “dishonest”? The linesmen can’t tell if it’s offsides or not half the time.

That’s the team’s job. To be just close enough to offsides that they gain an edge, but not so offsides that they get called for it.

Or, let’s take hooking, or holding, or roughing, or charging, or elbowing. Why are the players always hooking (etc.) even though it’s against the rules? And why are the refs more often than not  missing the call? Because the game is “dishonest”?

The whole game — in fact, every game where the rules are enforced by referees — is playing on the edge, on the border between legal and not. And the refs have to make a zillion judgment calls every game. Otherwise, you wouldn’t need refs.

And you know what else is dishonest?

Deking. That’s right, deking. When I taught my son how to deke, he said, “but dad, that’s A LIE!” And so it is. Fake-shots, fake passes, dekes, spinoramas, they’re all DISHONEST. And fun.

Kopitar got Smith to open his legs BY EMPLOYING DECEIT AND TRICKERY.

Go, Kings.

Diving is like every other infraction. It’s a penalty. The refs call it when they see it. The players employ diving up to the limit of what they believe is allowed, just as they employ hooking, slashing, elbowing, roughing, etc.


  14 comments for “Tippett: we’re getting our asses kicked because the game is dishonest and that’s sad really

  1. May 17, 2012 at 11:28 PM

    Dave Tippett: Moral Arbiter of Hockey

  2. May 18, 2012 at 2:00 AM

    You know it’s over when a coach makes the lame excuse that the refs are rigging it for the other team.  It’s cry baby stuff.  Something for them utter over beers and golf when their vacation from hockey starts after the Kings wrap this up. I guess Tippett is as much of a goon as his players are.  Ken Hitchcock was just as flumaxed and bewildered by the Kings, but had the class to give the Kings their due and even expressed admiration. I don’t know how bashing the refs works to get his team going. Do the Coyotes now go out and hack, slash and board the refs? Good luck with that game plan.

    Anyway, on to the next pressing question. 

    Should Dustin Brown touch the Clarence Campbell Bowl, or should he leave it alone?  

    I say, just pose for the photo, and skate away. That’s not the hardware we really want. 

  3. KingsNewsDaily.com
    May 18, 2012 at 7:47 AM

    I’m surprised you’re calling embellishment diving. Not the same thing at all. One is pure fiction, the other is adding fiction to fact (or in this case, a real penalty).

    As for Tippett, we know he’s not stupid or just plain bitter. He’s employing a basic tactic used by every politician:  if you don’t like the way an argument (or series in this case) is going, change the subject. Make the topic something other than your team is getting their asses kicked. And it’s working.

    As for the Kings power play sucking, that’s a silly argument even if what he was saying was true. A man advantage is still an advantage in many ways even if  you don’t score, as you know. A team down a man for much of the game is effectively impotent.

    • Sam
      May 18, 2012 at 8:09 AM

      The point about the power play was to enforce the premise the penalties have little effect on the outcome of the game. Plus, as a player you can’t put yourself in a position to allow a ref to make a judgement call. You can’t allow the refs to decide the game.

      • KingsNewsDaily.com
        May 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM

        Penalties have little effect on the outcome but you can’t allow the refs to decide the game. Got it.

    • May 18, 2012 at 9:22 AM

      A wasted man-advantage can easily sway the momentum in the other team’s favor, as we have seen many times this season. I agree with you that a team that is short-handed “‘for much of the game” is screwed, but (1) Phoenix wasn’t short-handed that much (what, 8 minors? I forget now), and (2) if you’re shorthanded a lot there are obvious problems beyond the argument that one or two of those many calls were “wrong.”

      But I agree with you that Tippett is employing the tactic you describe. Not sure it’s working, since he’s not really changing the subject. The subject is still “Phoenix is getting its ass handed to it on a platter.” 

      • KingsNewsDaily.com
        May 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM

         I think we ALL know it won’t work, but it’s really the best he could do given the circumstances. Reaching, grasping, hoping against hope. That’s about all they got. What I find the most amazing is how much Kings fans have turned against a guy the wanted more than anyone behind the Kings bench. Oddly, Tippett is coming across like a dick, whereas Hitchcock came out of that series more respected than ever. Strange.

  4. m_and_m
    May 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM

     Aww I think, as has been pointed out on other sites, that this is just a desperate coach trying to work the refs for game 4 while drawing the press’s attention away from his players.

  5. Sam
    May 18, 2012 at 8:08 AM

    Tippett is coming off as an ass the more he speaks. Its obvious he’s speaking out of frustration.

  6. May 18, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Dave Tippett just made himself the story of this series instead of his teams failure to beat the Kings.  Hopefully the Kings don’t let it get into their heads.

    • KingsNewsDaily.com
      May 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM

       They won’t. This team is so focused it’s freakish. Freakishly focused…I like that.

  7. Tricia
    May 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Was Dave Tippett asleep during Tuesday nights’ game?    Dishonesty is when your team players are playing with reckless abandonment and getting away with it.    I viewed last night’s game and was present to watch on Tuesday and I have never seen the Kings play a “dishonest” game.   Damn Sore Loser!!   

  8. Snewt
    May 19, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    “And you know what else is dishonest?. That’s right, deking. […] Fake-shots, fake passes, dekes, spinoramas, they’re all DISHONEST. And fun. Kopitar got Smith to open his legs BY EMPLOYING DECEIT AND TRICKERY.”

    Now THAT … was a brilliant argument. The Offsides too, but you just opened up an entire slant on Tippett’s point which I’d be VERY surprised to see him be able to justify away.

    What is a Curveball, a breaking ball, a slider or a KNUCKLEBALL? What’s a fake-punt or a no-look bounce pass? They are creative and deceptive ways to gain an edge – oh, and all teams in every sport use them. I do think however there is a limit … lest we all want the NHL to become professional soccer. But as you say, an infraction must have ACTUALLY occurred first. I’m looking at you, Mr. Kessler.

    • May 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM

       I agree there IS a limit, mostly having to do with timing, judgment, proportion…not so much morality.

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