Comments on: Will Stoll be here for three years?

By: Quisp

Quisp — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:21:00 +0000

I’m not judging Stoll based on scoring alone. He’s okay defensively, not great. He’s prone to bad penalties when trying to “play big”. He’s excellent in the face-off circle. Important. But not the only thing in the world to consider.

Loktionov’s numbers (I’m thinking of +-/60) are about the same as Stoll’s.

By: JB

JB — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:02:00 +0000

Right and neither does the 4th line so why did Lokti look so lost and suck on the defensive side of the puck when playing on those two lines?

To your other above comments: You recognize that Brown and Kopi are as if not more responsible for lack of scoring over years but as you say they’re not going anywhere. Nor should they as they bring a lot more than just pure scoring stats. But with Stoll your going to judge him on scoring?

I’m sorry with Lokti it seems the promise is all “potential” but we’ve yet to see evidence of that potential. I say trade him and even if he flourishes elsewhere that’s fine. Kind of like Boyle. Even with him flourishing in NY I don’t regret LA sending him off.

By: Quisp

Quisp — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:19:00 +0000

i agree re kopi and brown, but they’re not going anywhere.

By: Quisp

Quisp — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:19:00 +0000

the short version is, I choose loktionov over stoll. now. three years from now.

By: Quisp

Quisp — Thu, 28 Jun 2012 01:18:00 +0000

the first two lines are the checking lines. the “third” line doesn’t get the tough defensive assignments.

By: JB

JB — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:08:00 +0000

Heck I would say scoringand PP has been a problem for the last several “Brown and Kopi” years! I don’t recall Stoll running the PP this year. The guy had one “bad” regular season year only as far as scoring stats when everyone on the team had a “bad” regular season.

Lokti’s skills are best suited for top six role and I think for LA he would be a better winger. Especially since we’re gong w/ size down the middle but he didn’t look comfortable at all in that wing spot during the year. I think your looking for a spot for him even at the cost that he isn’t suited for that spot.

Only reason Lokti would bolt for KHL is if we can’t trade him because no other team is sold on his potential. There should be other teams that would take a small but skilled Russian center. Heck Edmonton seems to love those types or even Phoenix.

By: Quisp

Quisp — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:13:00 +0000

You could also argue that it’s wishful thinking to believe Stoll will ever be better or even as good as he was in this year’s playoffs. The Kings’ problem during the Stoll years has always been goal-scoring and power-play, and Stoll is of little to no help in these areas.

Trading Loktionov for a pick — or worse, creating a circumstance where he bolts for the KHL — would be a horrible outcome.`

By: JB

JB — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:27:00 +0000

Quisp- I agree with you that Stoll’s contract makes him an attractive tradeable asset but I think your love for Lokti is coloring your view a bit with some wishful thinking. No way Stoll is traded next year and probably not even year 2. Look how much they allowed Penner to “sort through” his slump! Stoll would have to totally flop for us to trade him and then he wouldn’t be a very attractive asset to other teams. And by flop I mean be terrible on face offs and defensive side. Obviously we’re not expecting 20-30 goals from him.

His final year maybe he could get traded if we have someone in system forcing him out of that spot but that’s a long way down the road. And I don’t see that guy in our system now.

This contract shuts the door on Lokti so hopefully DL can trade him for something before he bolts to KHL. However, at best I think all DL could get is some draft picks and since he wasn’t traded at last week’s draft it seems like he’s KHL bound.

By: Dan H.

Dan H. — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 16:02:00 +0000

Now to keep Lokti from going to the KHL and making some money…

By: Uni

Uni — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:58:00 +0000

“Don’t suck relative to your contract.” When put that way, this signing looks quite smart. Lombardi wins either way. Stoll plays great, or he gets moved fairly easily for someone who can play better. Even if he has another low-scoring season it would not be hard to find someone to pick him up at that contract given his experience, especially the winning part of it.