Comments on: How is Dwight King going to avoid waivers? http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/ Fact or opinion? Exactly. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:45:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: The answer to the Hickey/Muzzin (and King) waiver mystery _/ . MCSORLEY'S STICK _/ . | MCSORLEY'S STICK http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-4095 The answer to the Hickey/Muzzin (and King) waiver mystery _/ . MCSORLEY'S STICK _/ . | MCSORLEY'S STICK Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:22:31 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-4095 [...] How is Dwight King going to avoid waivers? (10/19/12) _/ . MCSORLEY’S STICK [...]

]]> By: Dwight King waiver issue clarified _/ . MCSORLEY'S STICK _/ . | MCSORLEY'S STICK http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3717 Dwight King waiver issue clarified _/ . MCSORLEY'S STICK _/ . | MCSORLEY'S STICK Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:30:29 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3717 [...] King waiver issue clarified October 30, 2012By QuispNiesy left this comment in the Dwight King post of a couple of weeks ago: OK, I did some searching and apparently other NHL clubs have been sending [...]

]]> By: jewelsfromthecrown http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3716 jewelsfromthecrown Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:27:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3716 OK, I did some searching and apparently other NHL clubs have been sending non-waiver-exempt players down to the AHL for a while. It seems to be a safe move so long as the player was listed on the AHL club’s clear day roster, even if they were up with the NHL team at the time. One example is the Penguins’ Tangradi.

It looks like King could have been there all along, but waited to see how long this lockout was going to go. His fiance is pregnant and he wants to stay in North America.

]]> By: Token http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3711 Token Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3711 They never posted the text of the agreement on either NHL or AHL site so all we can do is guess. The rule for two-way contract players was that they are protected from re-entry waivers if they need to/pass waivers to go down. There is no data for the corner case so I figure King was waiver exempt for 2012 and on the clear day roster and my best guess is he gets protected from re-entry since clearing waivers was not needed to go down even though he is no longer waiver exempt. Kind of confusing but plausible.

]]> By: Quisp http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3709 Quisp Sun, 21 Oct 2012 17:19:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3709 A one-way contract simply means that if the player is loaned to another league (i.e. the AHL) he gets his NHL salary. Obviously, King can’t get his NHL salary now because the NHL isn’t paying anybody. And I get that this is the crux of your point (that the whole “clear-day” angle is the thing that makes him waiver-exempt). But it seems odd to me that this is really the case, since this could only apply to the very small number of players who (1) were still bouncing back and forth between the AHL and NHL last spring, while (2) had their waiver-exemption expire over the summer, as King did.

I must be missing something here.

Also, the clear-day thing was supposed to prevent players from having to clear re-entry waivers, right? Not initial waivers. And King never went through the initial waivers.

This is the thing that’s bothering me. That they appear to have done an end-around the initial waivers.

]]> By: Token http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3708 Token Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:47:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3708 Also, forgot to mention King signed a one-way contract so he gets the special treatment. Whole clear-day angle.

]]> By: Token http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3707 Token Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:44:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3707 Yep, that’s the Hammer summary but I think I got the first news of this from Dregger or somesuch. Could have been Mackenzie, can’t remember.

]]> By: jewelsfromthecrown http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3706 jewelsfromthecrown Sat, 20 Oct 2012 01:13:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3706 All I know is I said on Twitter that they must’ve found a way around waivers and the Monarchs’ Twitter account favorited it. Funny huh?

Can’t figure out how, though.

]]> By: Quisp http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3705 Quisp Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:21:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3705 From Rich’s post week before the lockout:

“There’s also a chance that more players could be headed to Manchester during a (probable) NHL lockout. There are five additional players who meet the criteria to sign an AHL-only contract during the lockout. They are Andrew Campbell, Marc-Andre Cliche, Rich Clune, Thomas Hickey and Jake Muzzin. So, there is a way for the Kings to get those players to the AHL without the waiver process, but there’s no guarantee that they will sign those AHL contracts. We should know more in the next few days.”

]]> By: Quisp http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2012/10/how-is-dwight-king-going-to-avoid-waivers/#comment-3704 Quisp Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:17:00 +0000 http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/?p=13476#comment-3704 I must have missed the part where “thus waivers do not apply.” Technically, all AHL players have an AHL contract separate from their NHL contract; that’s what a 2-way contract is. As I understand it.

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