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	<title>Comments on: Kings&#8217; cap situation in 2013-14, compliance buy-outs &#8211; pt. 3</title>
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	<description>Fact or opinion? Exactly.</description>
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		<title>By: USHA#17</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3963</link>
		<dc:creator>USHA#17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Feel the same in re to Williams who hasn&#039;t come close to playing the type of smart hockey he showed two seasons ago.  Stoll will go sooner if a new faceoff artist appears.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feel the same in re to Williams who hasn&#8217;t come close to playing the type of smart hockey he showed two seasons ago.  Stoll will go sooner if a new faceoff artist appears.</p>
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		<title>By: USHA#17</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3962</link>
		<dc:creator>USHA#17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One point when talking Stoll - Loktionov.  Loktionov has been fairly ineffective on the draw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point when talking Stoll &#8211; Loktionov.  Loktionov has been fairly ineffective on the draw.</p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Won&#039;t trade Carter for several years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t trade Carter for several years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Knob</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3960</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Knob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope he doesn&#039;t trade carter. He&#039;s clearly a step above Richards in terms of talent. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope he doesn&#8217;t trade carter. He&#8217;s clearly a step above Richards in terms of talent. </p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3958</link>
		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 04:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Schenn and Simmonds yes. Jack Johnson, no.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schenn and Simmonds yes. Jack Johnson, no.</p>
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		<title>By: DougS</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3957</link>
		<dc:creator>DougS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given that Richards cost two significant young players and Carter cost another, I&#039;d say that Dean has, to some extent, staked his next contract extension on them, for better or worse. No way either gets bought out. Traded, perhaps, if significant value can be gotten in return. But not dumped.


I agree that Williams and/or Stoll are much better candidates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that Richards cost two significant young players and Carter cost another, I&#8217;d say that Dean has, to some extent, staked his next contract extension on them, for better or worse. No way either gets bought out. Traded, perhaps, if significant value can be gotten in return. But not dumped.</p>
<p>I agree that Williams and/or Stoll are much better candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Knob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Knob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 06:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would be a-ok with buying out richards if he continues to no show for prolonged periods of time again this year. Lombardi would never do it in a million years, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be a-ok with buying out richards if he continues to no show for prolonged periods of time again this year. Lombardi would never do it in a million years, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Quisp</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3954</link>
		<dc:creator>Quisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Williams and Stoll will move on sometime between now and 2015. It&#039;s just a matter of when. Even if Toffoli and co don&#039;t pan out, Williams won&#039;t be the answer at that point, as he will be well into decline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Williams and Stoll will move on sometime between now and 2015. It&#8217;s just a matter of when. Even if Toffoli and co don&#8217;t pan out, Williams won&#8217;t be the answer at that point, as he will be well into decline.</p>
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		<title>By: Kings of Hockeywood</title>
		<link>http://www.mcsorleys-stick.com/2013/01/compliance-buy-outs/#comment-3953</link>
		<dc:creator>Kings of Hockeywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I was one of those who first said Carter and Richards could be the buy-out victims, but the more I have thought about it, the more I agree with your assessment, Quisp. Carter at least provides a real spark to the offense. Richards isn&#039;t nearly as valuable offensively but he does provide other intangibles, a lot like Brown. I don&#039;t think either of them could be bought out.

I think Justin Williams and Jarret Stoll are going to be bought out. And here&#039;s why: you&#039;re right, Toffoli will be on the team next season. And he is going to be on the top line. Toffoli replaces Williams and his $3.6 million cap hit which has another two years left on it. Odds are that he will be more productive too.

Stoll also has two more years with a $3.25 million cap hit. Stoll only got that number because Lombardi wanted to bring the whole team back to defend the Cup. It&#039;s way more than he&#039;s worth at this point, especially when there are a number of prospects in the organization who could replace him already. Whether it&#039;s Vey, Weal, Loktionov, or one of the centers currently on the roster but playing the wing, there is somebody who can do what Stoll&#039;s been doing, but for a $2 million a year savings.


I like Williams and Stoll as much as anyone, but they are overpaid and can be replaced with cheap kids who will probably even be better producers. They are gone and with $4 million in savings, the Kings would still have some room if they feel they have to add someone else to bolster the lineup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I was one of those who first said Carter and Richards could be the buy-out victims, but the more I have thought about it, the more I agree with your assessment, Quisp. Carter at least provides a real spark to the offense. Richards isn&#8217;t nearly as valuable offensively but he does provide other intangibles, a lot like Brown. I don&#8217;t think either of them could be bought out.</p>
<p>I think Justin Williams and Jarret Stoll are going to be bought out. And here&#8217;s why: you&#8217;re right, Toffoli will be on the team next season. And he is going to be on the top line. Toffoli replaces Williams and his $3.6 million cap hit which has another two years left on it. Odds are that he will be more productive too.</p>
<p>Stoll also has two more years with a $3.25 million cap hit. Stoll only got that number because Lombardi wanted to bring the whole team back to defend the Cup. It&#8217;s way more than he&#8217;s worth at this point, especially when there are a number of prospects in the organization who could replace him already. Whether it&#8217;s Vey, Weal, Loktionov, or one of the centers currently on the roster but playing the wing, there is somebody who can do what Stoll&#8217;s been doing, but for a $2 million a year savings.</p>
<p>I like Williams and Stoll as much as anyone, but they are overpaid and can be replaced with cheap kids who will probably even be better producers. They are gone and with $4 million in savings, the Kings would still have some room if they feel they have to add someone else to bolster the lineup.</p>
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